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Poster: php111 Date: Feb 5, 2014 8:14pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: How would someone organize these albums?

In regards to the reply made earlier stated From the Mars Hotel was on 1/1/74. I looked on Wikipedia and it shows different dates. So, first, what is the correct date? And second, which dates do I look at for the show dates? The dates wikipedia has are Released June 27,1974 and Recorded March 30-April 19, 1974 at CBS Studios, San Francisco, California

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Feb 5, 2014 10:16pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: How would someone organize these albums?

I'm guessing you're kinda new to the GD collect-it-all-obsessively world. Mars Hotel was one of the studio albums; it doesn't involve a show, although the re-release (or one of them) does muck it up with a grab-bag of tracks from various shows in '73-74 ... I'm a purist so I'd whiningly insist on Only The Original Tracks :-)

Probably the reason someone might (rather sensibly) categorize one of the formal studio albums as 74-1-1 is just to put "the album/s released that year" in a separate category at the start of the year. Conceptually, the canonical albums are a different bird, IMO.

Besides, if you use the release date, what do you do with a re-release that includes different tracks from the original? (Heresy, heresy!) And the fact that the bonus tracks are all over the place (and are from shows, whereas the studio album is not)? Anyway, I label by date for easy finding; and I'd pick 1/1 personally to keep the album separate. Or you could use the original release date (since that's when the public heard it). Or do a separate file for the canonical albums. Or whatever works for you.

I don't know about others, but I always talk about the music I have as shows rather than albums, and it's led to some odd conversations -- most recently, with a young woman from Taiwan, who shared that she had some Grateful Dead on her iPod.

Me: Really? Great! What shows?
Her: Uh ... I have two things.
Me: Which ones?
Her: Um, uh, well ... it's Fire on the Mountain and Sugar Magnolia.
Me: From when?
Her: I don't know, I just got it from iTunes.

Oh, RIGHT. Everyone doesn't think like me :-)








This post was modified by AltheaRose on 2014-02-06 06:16:09

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Poster: William Tell Date: Feb 6, 2014 6:56am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: How would someone organize these albums?

And, what DO you DO when YOU discover that the live bonus track is NOT from the date THEY list, and YOU discover the correct date, post it here, and everyone pats you on the back...and...and...that's all.

Hmmm.

Damn it.

Workingmans BT of UJB is from 10-4-70, not Dec something as they state on the re release...

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Feb 6, 2014 7:48am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: How would someone organize these albums?

Now, now, WT.

Look what I just helpfully did for you. Official citation and all. (Well, it doesn't point to a post by WT, but it can if you can link me to it ...)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Workingman%27s_Dead#Track_listing

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Poster: William Tell Date: Feb 6, 2014 6:45pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: How would someone organize these albums?

Here it is...I fig'd it out in 2008 when I initially listened to the re-release, and was trying to find the sug mag that was on the same album, knowing the UJB had been on a bootleg w this great sug mag. When I describe the album, LiA and GoP tell me, "oh, that sug mag is from 10-4" and bingo, I put two and two together:

https://archive.org/post/215883/lia-is-a-frickin-geniusbut-you-knew-that

EDIT: okay, I guess you need this other one to realize I first posted saying "hey, this is the great UJB from the Mammary Productions bootleg, and since they say it's from Dec, I need to find the sug mags that went with it"

https://archive.org/post/215818/uncle-johns-tdih

Do I get my credit now?

;)

Hmmm, read LiA's blog...I guess he waited to confirm it via some guy that recorded it...you can listen like I did (I have the bootleg!) and it is a no brainer match...

This post was modified by William Tell on 2014-02-07 02:45:42

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Feb 6, 2014 7:11pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: How would someone organize these albums?

Good enough for Wikipedia, Sherlock. Now I have done my good deed for the day, and your detective work is enshrined in footnote 11 for all the world.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Workingman%27s_Dead#Track_listing

This post was modified by AltheaRose on 2014-02-07 03:11:20

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Poster: William Tell Date: Feb 6, 2014 9:06pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: How would someone organize these albums?

Cool; now, where's SDH to sing my praises?

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Feb 6, 2014 9:19pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: How would someone organize these albums?

Are you still here? I thought you retired...

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Poster: William Tell Date: Feb 7, 2014 5:43am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: How would someone organize these albums?

Oh, this? This is God's Work, as we are wont to say. Serving the masses? Yeah, that's over. This is "I am a good guy" for posterity type stuff...